September 24, 2011

过热本田转换器/ 740代码

Ed Lee

Overheated Honda converters have become a living nightmare for manytransmission和扭矩换乐动BBIN彩票器商店,一个人在解决过程中的许多误解和错误的过程中徘徊了。责备游戏已经来回走了,但转矩转换器重建者已经接受了大部分批评。乐动BBIN彩票

The overheated converters have been pushing the frustration levels of many transmission rebuilders to an all-time high. Shopping around for a different torque converter rebuilder was common during this period. At one point, ATRA Technical Advisor Mike Souza said that many of his tech calls would start with the question, "Is there anyone out there that can build a good Honda converter?" The reality is that if the proper converter friction material for the clutch apply strategy was being used (such as BorgWarner HTS for models with a modulated TCC), the clutch release clearance was adjusted properly (.035" is correct for most models) and the TCC circuit seals were doing their job, there was not much more that the torque converter rebuilder could do. The painful truth is that the torque converter rebuilder could supply a great converter and still have an overheating issue. The fact that at least half of the overheated Honda converters in any given core pile are OE converters is further proof that the problem was not being caused by rebuilt converters.

The appearance of the converters after a failure, and the fact that most failures ended with a P0740 code, led to the misconception that the failures were caused by heat. Consequently, a lot of time was wasted focusing on the inside of the converter instead of working to increase the volume of oil flowing through the converter.




为什么Was the Converter Overheating?

Many transmission shops helped to find the root cause of the overheating issue, but ATEX Transmissions in Port Richey, Fla., stands out for their effort. The shop manager, Sean St. John, logged hundreds of road test miles with vehicles equipped with flow monitoring devices to record cooler flow and strategically placed pyrometers to record temperatures. Sean was the first person to recognize that after warm up, when the vehicle would come to a stop, the cooler flow would drop to zero. The flow would resume when the idle was raised above 1200 RPM. Most importantly, he noticed that the temperature of the oil exiting the converter would increase dramatically when the cooler flow dropped to a certain level. Sean's observations lead to the conclusion that the heat in the converter was caused by the clutch dragging on the cover during periods of low TCC charge (release) oil flow and not as a result of slipping during TCC apply, as previously thought. But why was the low flow happening? This became easier to understand when a pressure gauge was added and transmission line pressure was monitored at the same time as cooler flow. If the line pressure dropped at the same time as the cooler flow was decreasing, you would be looking for conditions such as low fluid level, severely worn valve bores or possibly a severely worn pump. But, since the line pressure remained high when the flow rate decreased, an out-of-position PR valve was more likely the cause of poor cooler flow.

Typically, the PR spring and any available boost pressures push the PR valve in one direction and balance pressure opposes or pushes from the opposite direction until the valve reaches its regulating position. When the PR valve approaches its regulating position, charge oil (TCC release oil) begins to flow and continues to flow as long as the valve remains in the regulating position(Figure 2).



In many systems, a modest base line pressure is established by the PR springs, with higher pressures coming as a result of some demand-related boost system. As you can see inFigure 2, Honda does not use a conventional line pressure boost system. In the Honda system, more substantial PR springs and a stator load-related boost system establish a much higher base line pressure from the outset with modest boost increase at max pressure.




为什么冷流低?

Under low pump output conditions, balance line pressure cannot overcome the stout PR spring and boost force. This causes the PR valve to move out of its regulating position (also referred to as a PR valve being "out of balance"). Under this condition, although line pressure is available (as noted by Sean), the valve has stroked over and shut off flow to the converter charge/cooler circuit. The result: TCC dragging on the cover, little or no cooler flow to control that heat, and all those cooked converters in your core pile(Figure 3).






为什么泵输出低?

1. Low Pump Capacity:

A key factor is the low capacity of the Honda pump. Because the pump is designed around fuel efficiency concerns and limited space restraints, it has very little reserve capacity. The higher the operational demands on the pump, the more likely it is that you will experience an overheated converter. The vehicles with the larger diameter converters, larger clutch drum capacities and more gears will be more likely to have converter overheating. Low pump capacity also makes wear an important factor. Pump wear, valve bore wear and end plug wear caused by high mileage will increase the likelihood of a converter overheating. Because of the delicate balance of the Honda PR valve, very little wear is necessary to upset this balance.

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当车辆上有所增加时,还存在转换器过热的机会。拖曳拖车,超载车辆或爬过山区,所有人都会在转换器中的定子上放置在定子上,并影响PR阀的平衡。

3.Oil Viscosity:

The viscosity of the oil also can be an issue. Since the viscosity of the oil is related to its temperature, the higher the ambient temperature, the higher the likelihood of an overheated converter. High-quality synthetic oil may be helpful, but since the Honda 1-2 shift feel relies so heavily on OE Honda fluid, it is less of an option.




为什么Doesn't the Engine Stall?

One question that always comes up is, "With the PR valve out of balance, why doesn't the engine stall when the flow of charge oil is so low and the clutch is dragging?" This is an excellent question and the answer involves the type of hydraulic lockup circuit that the Honda uses. The two-path lockup circuits on theE4ODand rear-wheel drive 3-speed Chrysler transmissions have both had engine stall issues caused by flow issues. If Honda had a two-path lockup circuit, it also would probably have an engine stall issue. The lockup circuit found on Honda transmission is a three-path circuit that uses a bypass valve like some front-wheel drive Ford transmissions. The three-path lockup circuit is not as susceptible to engine stall as the two-path circuits because there are two check valves which can be forced open before full lockup is achieved. One downside to the three-path lockup circuit is that there are more areas for potential leaks. The Honda primary charge oil circuit enters the input/turbine shaft between the second and third sealing ring and exits at the end of the shaft between the cover and TCC clutch(Figure 4).



该电路通常相当紧。另一方面,并​​联电路不具有正密封,其中定子支撑件穿过阀体(Figure 5).

This parallel circuit is prone to leak and does have some effect on flow. Not all shops will be able to address this leak, but the overheated converter issue can be resolved without fixing this leak. If you are able to address this leak (Figure 6), you will add about .2 of a gallon to your cooler flow.




解决低流量/超出余额问题


由于当PR阀门失去平衡时,由于转换器电荷油的几乎没有或没有流量,以使TCC活塞拖动盖子上,因此您需要创建一个替代或次要的油流量。有效修复,您应该考虑带内置,计量的线路电路的售后市场PR阀门。这允许在失去平衡时流到转换器和冷却器,但在调节位置时不会影响流量。此外,当发动机关闭时,止回阀防止转换器排出。请记住,转换器过热的根本原因是低泵容量,并且您不想通过创建漏水状态来使这个问题变得更糟。从本田开始,由于排水管,它为油饿死,只会产生更多的泵磨损并导致下泵输出,这只会使问题变得更糟。Figure 7shows the Sonnax converter charge regulated pressure regulator valve98892-04Kfor Honda 4/5-speed units, maintaining flow during the out of position situation.



For further reading, reference the articles "Anatomy of a Transmission"or "Ford Bypass Converter Clutch Circuits" in the Sonnax Transmission Technical Library.

Ed Lee is a Sonnax Technical Specialist who writes on issues of interest to torque converter rebuilders. Sonnax supports the乐动BBIN彩票Torque Converter Rebuilders协会.

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